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Post by nagerash on Aug 16, 2012 21:58:31 GMT
nope. every. single. nob. is a character... thats why it's so annoying. they have the same role as our necron lords I guess.
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Post by Lazanakisk60 on Aug 16, 2012 23:22:33 GMT
Actually i dont think they are characters, check out the codex, i already did and their entry on page 98 should clearly state they are Characters - but it doesnt, so no they are NOT characters I guess you and your friend mistake them for Lords: no, they are NOT like Lords, Orc boyz units can take a Nob for some points, in THAT case it is a character but a squad of Nobs is not a character squad!! So No, bikers cannot make a Look out sir attempt, and your friend should look the codex more focused ( No offence intended ) And so the Monolith and Doomsday ark we've been talking about are suddently killy!!
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Post by neCZluva_a.k.a._MościNIECZlek on Aug 17, 2012 7:05:45 GMT
they inflict instadeath i think
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Post by nagerash on Aug 17, 2012 7:38:10 GMT
really? I will deffinitely have to look that up then! and Nobbikers are T5 (no more T4(5)) so no instant death for the monolith and Doomsday ark.
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Post by Lazanakisk60 on Aug 17, 2012 13:36:55 GMT
yup, no IDeath. But also no Look out Sir So by inflicting 5 wounds, the enemy now has to roll the saves until he misses both 5s, not so hard to roll under 5...
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Post by nagerash on Aug 17, 2012 14:53:59 GMT
apparently, the BRB says that they are characters in the appendix (no difference between mobleaders and the nobsquad). However, if you look in the FAQ for the orks, it doesn't really say that nobsquads get the character type, but it says that since the book is made for a previous edition, you should check the BRB for hull points and unit types... which would mean that the nobs will become characters since thats what it says in the appendix of the rulebook . I am sure however that this wasn't intended, and will hopefully be fixed in an upcomming FAQ.
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Post by neCZluva_a.k.a._MościNIECZlek on Aug 17, 2012 14:59:01 GMT
charcter cant make a look out sir 4 character so i think tha pie plates from ark lits and concentrated fire of gauss morties(wounding on 4+ you remove the armour save so no Feel no Pain only the 5++ invul) anyhoe strnge there's no longer 4(5) it was reasonable
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Post by Lazanakisk60 on Aug 18, 2012 1:17:19 GMT
Bikes make them T5.
And sadly FnP is only ignored from Insta-kill, so if they get their invuls only they still get FnP, but on 5+ only.
nagarash, Damn you are right about it, and it seems it IS actually intended forthem to be characters as in the rulebook it states that Nobbikers are Also characters.
So switch up: Like Moss said, amass Immortals against them, its the only good unit in the codex that is cheap enough to be risked...
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Post by nagerash on Aug 19, 2012 16:38:31 GMT
Yeah I am trying that, but it just takes a long while to reduce those numbers... and a 4+ cover save + 5+ FnP save is still the same (chance wise) as if they had a 3+ save. So Will just have to mass some firepower against them...
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Post by neCZluva_a.k.a._MościNIECZlek on Aug 19, 2012 18:37:28 GMT
just stick into the 10th of morties lordie(s) scythe MSS 2+with orb like here goes the dei hard mutherfcuker
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Post by Lazanakisk60 on Aug 19, 2012 20:19:29 GMT
Actually a Nob biker squad can chop down a Lord in 2 turns at the most, but he will do some damage.
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Post by neCZluva_a.k.a._MościNIECZlek on Aug 20, 2012 7:18:04 GMT
soften dem up wit pe plates concentrate mories fire
R they all armed wit power klaws?
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Post by nagerash on Aug 20, 2012 11:51:08 GMT
Usually you won't see more then two of them, but that are still about 8 PK attacks... (10 on the charge)
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Post by neCZluva_a.k.a._MościNIECZlek on Aug 20, 2012 12:45:34 GMT
so the key is to challenge one maybe 2 when two lordies wit mss
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Post by nagerash on Aug 20, 2012 17:31:06 GMT
you can only have one challenge in each combat
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