mozes
Necron Warrior
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Post by mozes on Oct 8, 2012 11:14:02 GMT
ok, now i'm a bit confused, i thought the overlord should go with obyron and spend the imortal a lord..? And you r sure that i should not use an aegis?
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Post by neCZluva_a.k.a._MościNIECZlek on Oct 8, 2012 11:31:53 GMT
as per SK's idea overlord with deathmarks and obyron.it's neat but instead i preffer two ap1 temblates wounding on twos(d3 hits on overwatch)
either case id playtes and see waht suits you bettr
morties witho ovrlord ona scythe - damn nice impact force
ghost arc with two eldritch lancs and 8 warriors - uber killy
aegis anti aircraft mainly scythes bothhave the twin linked s8 destructor to handle other birds a barges get rerolss and hit with the destructor on 6 than down a bird
playtes try to playtest many options and develop e your own list based on your experience
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Post by Lazanakisk60 on Oct 8, 2012 14:52:48 GMT
Nemesor Zahndrekh: 185p. Vargard Obyron: 160p. Overlord, Warscythe, Mindshackle Scarabs, Tesseract Labyrinth, Resurrection Orb, Sempiternal Weave, Phase Shifter: 225p.
Harbinger of Despair, Veil of Darkness: 60p. Harbinger of Despair, Veil of Darkness: 60p. Harbinger of the Storm, Lightning Field: 35p. Harbinger of the Storm: 25p.
10 Deathmarks: 190p.
10 Immortals: 170p. – Night Scythe: 100p. 10 Immortals: 170p. – Night Scythe: 100p. 10 Immortals: 170p. 10 Immortals: 170p.
Annihilation Barge, Gauss Cannon: 90p. Annihilation Barge, Gauss Cannon: 90p.
TOTAL: 2000p.
Here, both fluff and power in it, try it and see for yourself!!
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Post by Lazanakisk60 on Oct 8, 2012 15:03:31 GMT
HOW IT WORKS:
Two units of Immortals each goes into a Night Scythe along with a harbinger of the storm in each one (only 1 has the field Watch Out!).
2 Despairteks, Obyron and Overlord all with deathmarks and deploy at the far corner.
1st turn Zahn turboes to teleporta Ob with his buddies and kill stuff.
Other 20 Immortals are there for objective camp and cover fire, A-barges too.
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Post by neCZluva_a.k.a._MościNIECZlek on Oct 8, 2012 18:08:49 GMT
simple yet solid ;D
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Post by Lazanakisk60 on Oct 8, 2012 19:03:27 GMT
Built to be versatile, mobile, heavy hitting, and contains a game-stopping unit.
KNOW YOUR WEAKNESS: The only critical weakness of this list is that if the Nemesor's barge is destroyed before he closes in to the enemy army (the enemy is very much likely to keep his army together, after the 1st teleportation, The super unit does not rely THAT much from Zahn). The enemy however, can steal the 1st turn on a 6, and if he gets lucky to shoot at Zanh, he WILL.
So ALWAYS deploy Zahn in a way that the enemy has few sight to him, even if that means to deploy him so that you stay 8" back from the expected teleport range, so be it!
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Post by Lazanakisk60 on Oct 8, 2012 19:07:07 GMT
And about the Aegis, It is well armed and provides a great DEFENCE for the army.
Only problem here is that this list is almost completely offensive.
The line would be greatly useful in killpoints missions, where you just take tons of Imms and 3 Doomsday Arks and Support Characters and a Quad-gun for bird-hunting... completely different list.
So the Aegis is suited for a DEFENCIVE BUILD list and not for this one.
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Post by neCZluva_a.k.a._MościNIECZlek on Oct 8, 2012 19:42:18 GMT
aegis - id take it for the quad gun to harrass and liklely down annoying birds trying to be pesky behind your lines due to the 48 '' range apart from it on big tables it's a nice way to defend the objectives so not dat useless if u have 50 spare points it limits enemy birds movement greately
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Post by neCZluva_a.k.a._MościNIECZlek on Oct 8, 2012 21:02:39 GMT
besides it can easily penetrate rhinos chimeras wound monstrous creatures and so on-not dat bad as per 50pts if i recall correctly
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mozes
Necron Warrior
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Post by mozes on Oct 8, 2012 21:24:31 GMT
yepp.. the other problem is:
I only have 20 Immortals and 10 of them I built with Tesla...=/
AND: we just play 1850... I could use the list, you showed me, but I'd need to cancel the TL (is that your nick for the teseract-labyrinth?). And since I dont have the other 20 Immortals and just have 1850, I'd take 10 Warriors instead.. so my list would be:
Nemesor Zahndrekh: 185p.+ Command Barge 80 Vargard Obyron: 160p. Overlord, Warscythe, Mindshackle Scarabs, Resurrection Orb, Sempiternal Weave, Phase Shifter: 205p.
Harbinger of Despair, Veil of Darkness: 60p. Harbinger of Despair, Veil of Darkness: 60p. Harbinger of the Storm, Lightning Field: 35p. Harbinger of the Storm: 25p.
10 Deathmarks: 190p.
10 Immortals: 170p. – Night Scythe: 100p. 10 Immortals: 170p. – Night Scythe: 100p. 10 Warriors 130
Annihilation Barge, Gauss Cannon: 90p. Annihilation Barge, Gauss Cannon: 90p.
You helped me out a lot, so thank you very much for that! I'm still concerned about lists like Coteaz with Inquisitor-unit and some GreyKnights+Riffle-Bot...
Dont you think I'd get some problems in "the scoring" if I dont bring wraiths, which could also grab objectives?
And another question: where are you guys from? Cause I have never seen a list or style of game like this, but its very interessting thoug...
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Post by neCZluva_a.k.a._MościNIECZlek on Oct 8, 2012 22:14:22 GMT
as sad once or twice SK is a wargaming geek i mean greek and im from poland
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Post by Lazanakisk60 on Oct 9, 2012 12:44:11 GMT
lol Moss!! Yeah im Greek!
thanks for the comments Moz really appriciated! Since you play 1850 the modifications on the list are OK.
Only thing i'd do is to drop a Warrior to get the other Stormtek a lightning field (Storm-cryptek=Stormtek).
And yup, TL is Tesseract labyrinth RO is Resurrection orb MSS is Mindshackle scarabs Shifter and Weave and Phyl... you can guess TA is Tachyon arrow
Take the time to look at the tactica section for the "Ctan Shard code" and the "Cryptek code" threads i created, this should help you a lot (Eg at the Cryptek code a Harbinger with pulse is called a "Pulsetek").
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mozes
Necron Warrior
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Post by mozes on Oct 9, 2012 13:31:51 GMT
well, im really gratefull for all your help =)
its funny, actually im not that far away from you and stil our lists are completly different... very interessting...
I had also another idea: if i kick 1 warrior and the TL (and the lightning field) i could buy 2 extra stormteks, so i'd have 10immortals with night scythe and two stormteks.. but i think it'll be better to have the two fieldteks..
PS: for example here in austria the TL was never played since everybody agreed, that it's too "useless" and that this 20p r better off somewhere else in the army.. haha
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Post by Lazanakisk60 on Oct 10, 2012 15:51:58 GMT
well it makes sense why people say "oh its useless i have a Warscythe" BUT if they look at the bigger picture: Overlord has only 3 attacks and WS4 so most times he hits on 4s, so not that many attacks will pass oftenly... And, what if the guy has a Stormshield(3+ invul)? then even the warscythe will have a hard time cutting throught as its easy to roll 2 3s on 2 D6s. Plus if a Pweapon sergeant challenges a LORD, then he must roll a D6 and on 2+ you win the challenge!! So TL is great in Lords with Imms, but Overlords with many upgrades dont want to wait a turn tied with a 3+invul guy... And about the fieldteks, well one and 10 Immortals are pretty much Overkill against vehicles (The tek has 4 shots that hit on 3s, then for each one that hit you roll a 2+ and a vehicle hit looses a Hull point or HP, so basically its almost guaranteed to remove 5 HPs with 20 Gauss shots and 4 Haywire shots... there is no need for a 2nd guy unless you take on a Titan lol!!) I assume you know that a vehicle with no HPs is wreacked, right?! So keep the list as it is bro
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